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>>>> Now that's one of a hidden setting. I never use Virtual Trash, so >>>> when has it been moved there? >>> >>> Between IMP 4 and IMP 5. >> >> I found the old behavior with a checkbox to enable the virtual trash >> more intuitive. But I don't have a strong opinion about this either. > > Having separate "trash" and "virtual trash" options was completely > unintuitive. They are the same thing. Virtual Trash is a *type* of > trash mailbox; it's not a separate entity. > >>>> Now that I was able to enable Virtual Trash, it's broken though: >>>> - You still see deleted messages in the regular mailboxes. >>> >>> Can't reproduce. >>> >>>> - You cannot undelete messages. >>> >>> Fixed. >> >> Needs to be backported too. Thanks! > > Unfortunately, this isn't something that is directly backportable > since message viewing has changed a bunch in IMP 7. Due to other > time concerns (which I will hopefully be able to discuss very soon) I > don't have the time to do the kind of involved backporting necessary > for this. > >>>> - You can drag messages from the VT to any folder while they stay deleted. >>> >>> The current behavior is correct. If you "move" a message out of >>> Virtual Trash, it will disappear from virtual trash. But since the >>> message has a deleted flag, it will "re-appear" when the virtual >>> trash is explicitly refreshed (i.e. the search is run again). This >>> is consistent semantics with every other search mailbox. >> >> It's not the same completely. Because if you move from a search >> mailbox to a folder so that it doesn't match the search criteria >> anymore, it works like a regular mailbox. > > Exactly my point. >> And that's the more >> important point. If we use the folder semantics with search results, >> we need to use the folder semantics in user interaction too. Where we >> cannot guarantee this interaction behavior, we need to disable it. If >> we don't want to re-run the search immediately (which would be the >> correct behavior) because it is too performance hungry, we need to >> disable moving out of search folders. > > Why? Again... this is how every mailbox works... when you move a > message out, it disappears. And all search mailboxes are not > refreshed until explicitly told to. (There is a difference in > semantics between search and non-search mailboxes, but that is OK > because there is explicit visual indication - via the searchbar - of > this difference). > > I guess I'm confused what you think you should be seeing. Moving a > message out of the Virtual Trash should not cause that message to > remain in the Virtual Trash. I'm not sure what other behavior you > are expecting. (i.e. moving a message out of Virtual Trash to a > different mailbox MUST cause the message to be initially removed from > the virtual trash, since delivery to a mailbox could possibly result > in the \deleted flag being removed, for example).
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