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Comment on [#2315] Provide VFS db drivers that spool blobs using streams
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> I really am not sure what I said to set you off so much. I was not > trying to be condescending, and I am sorry you took it that way. > > > > As far as providing a URL where you could find information - > unfortunately, I am not a paid support agent of Horde. I would > really love to help everyone, and if I had a URL close at hand I > would have given it. Instead I suggested a place you could search. > > > > As for your statement that it is obviously IMP's fault for using too > much memory, I respectfully disagree. First of all, internet mail is > not the place to be sending around 10 MB files but this religious > argument has already taken place on the mailing lists and I will not > address it anymore here. Second, I can send 10 MB files without PHP > using anywhere near 320 MB of memory so it is clearly not > reproducible for everyone. Third, this *is* a PHP issue as much as > you don't believe it is. IMP has absolutely NO control over how we > retrieve the data from the uploaded file, for example, since we are > stuck with functions PHP provides to do this. When we are encoding > the file this is done via a PHP function - we have no control over > the memory usage in this function either. Swapping data to disk to > conserve memory is not really an option since this really isn't the > job of userland code. Once again, if you search discussions on the > mailing lists you will find that this topic has come up before and > the consensus is that PHP is pretty darn liberal when it comes to > allocating memory (I think this is one of the items they were > shooting to improve on in PHP 5). > > > > I don't doubt that we could make some improvements but simply > complaining about the issue without knowing the underlying facts, or > offering to submit improvements, isn't going to help us out much.
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