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>>> Maybe because whats intuitive to developers may not be intuitive to > >>> normal end-users, and vice versa? > > > > Let me clarify that. It wasn't intended to be a flame. I think from > time to time we all get tunnel vision. Developers make decisions > based on what they think or want. Admins configure software with > settings that, after testing, reveal that they need to be changed, > based on user-feedback. And users want features (now) that do XYZ > because they see XYZ elsewhere, or because thats the way they've > always done things. Why these decisions are oft-times unintuitive is > a) developers don't always fully vette their ideas with real > non-technical end-users, b) admins don't use a wide-enough audience > in determining initial settings, and c) end-users have unreasonable > expectations about what it takes to develop software, and in some > cases, the way they do things is just plain wrong. Hence, from time > to time (not intended to be a blanket statement) what's intuitive to > one group is not intuitive to another. > > > >> Alright, obviously you're frustrated. However: > >> > >> a). I'd say that more than 50% of your requests/suggestions/etc. have > >> been implemented, if not better. > >> > >> b). The above is downright insulting. Sometimes developers are out of > >> touch with users, but most of the core developers use IMP as their > >> primary and/or only email client. I fix crap all the time in IMP and > >> other Horde apps because it bugs me - as a user. We respond to > >> requests from users - like you - all the time. ... > > > > Not intended to be insulting, and again, not intended to be a blanket > statement, as clarified above. That will learn me to wait until I'm > not so frustrated, to respond, so that the proper modifiers and > qualifiers make it into a statement. > > > >>> Obviously, I must be the only one in the world who has run into this > >>> problem, > >>> as obviously I must be the only one in the world who thinks the fetchmail > >>> behavior is inconsistent too (2211). It isn't quite noone, but >>> onlyone (who > >>> has taken the time to document and report it). > >> > >> Uh, 2211 is open. > > > > Yes, just making light of the fact that I don't think that using the > argument that noone has reported it is a valid argument. I can > certainly see where noone else may agree with an idea, in which case > it either dies or is refined. But the fact that noone has reported > it doesn't mean a lot. Thats a little bit insulting to first time > bug reporters, who take the time to formally document a bug.
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