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Comment on [#13325] Editor bug - text drag and drop does not work
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> When I select text, then drag and drop it (with my mouse) to another > location in an email message during New Message creation or > reply/forward of a message, the text stays where it was. I expect > all text editing and message creation features to work AT LEAST as > well as they do in my Google Chromium or Mozilla Firefox Browser > standard webmail applications like Google, Live, etc. > > HOW COMPLICATED CAN THIS BE, with WYSIWYG web mail editors having > existed since the early 1990's? You can get the code FREE from > LibreOffice. Why not ask for help with this from the piles of code > already available. > > Let me point out that the ONLY REASON I use Horde Groupware for > webmail is that most of the other free versions suck worse, and I > spurned Horde for years in favor of Outlook or Thunderbird BECAUSE > the GUI was so ugly and tedious to use, and messing with email was so > frustrating and labor intensive. I just started using it to avoid > having to spin up thunderbird and put up with its lethargy in > downloading all the cached email through IMAP under UBUNTU (I use > tbird all the time under Windows 8, and it has its own annoyances). > But Horde's editor is a SUPREME PAIN IN THE NECK. It needs to do > drag and drop of images, text, links, and other content seamlessly. > > I don't write merely to complain. I want to USE horde a lot more in > the future. And I need it to function practically before I make that > commitment. I and MILLIONS OF OTHER CPANEL WEBMASTERS. > > Yes, I know, I can use LIVE.com and GMAIL and YAHOO MAIL, and ZOHO, > but I have to put up with THEIR business models and space > limitations. I already spend $100 a month on a dedicated server. > I'm hoping Horde can become my email program of choice among all of > them. In order for this to happen, HORDE developers must > > 1. Make the editor into a world class substitute for libreoffice > writer, more on the order of Google Docs > > 2. Provide ever more sophisticated management, import, export and > linking of address books. For example, I need merge and purge > functions to simplify address cleanup, full integration with my > Android (Nexus 5, etc) phone and tablet contact lists, ability to > email-merge to groups of contacts, and more intuitive finding of > contacts among my other address books. For example, I want to list > all my address books with other mail programs or webmail programs, > including Outlook and thunderbird on my PC, and HORDE's address > location service needs to look for matching text or emails among all > of them. It also needs an easier way of synchronizing with > thunderbird and outlook contact lists. I have read instructions on > this, but haven't a clue how to set up thunderbird to access Horde's > address book, or vice versa. We need a simpler, bulletproof method > that normal users can use. Also, Horde needs to add date tokens to > every element in an address book entry. Creation date becomes the > starting token, then whenever an element changes, Horde adds the > current date token to it without erasing the old element which the > new element replaced. This would add to the bulk of the address book > over time. But it would make merging, and purging of multiple > entries very easy, and it would keep people from losing valuable > stuff.. Horde needs to recommend address book maintenance to the > user by detecting duplicates. It also needs to conjecture about the > name when only the email address exists for an entry. > > 3. Provide better archiving for YEARS of email caches. From the > practical viewpoint, I let my email build up in imap for a year, > purging the spam and stuff not worth saving as the days roll by. At > the end of the year, I move everything into the archive for that > year, with some messages going into a special topical archive folder > for that year and topic. Sometimes I need to search one or more > archives to find certain content. I really would like a feature like > that built into horde, something that automates the process. > Remember that many users might want to leave a legacy of their > thoughts (sent mail), and discussion threads on certain topics for > their heirs. Why shouldn't Horde provide that feature as a tool for > improving civilization? People could bequeath their archives to > historical societies, and Horde could facilitate this, and earn > search fees from libraries and research institutions and governments > for access. Horde could facilitate stashing the archives at > archive.org. but maintain a local horde catalog of everything in the > bequeathed archives. Without such a service, much if not most > valuable stuff that people write simply disappears when they die or > suffer a life crisis like divorce, war, changing jobs, leaving > educational institutions, etc. > > Please don't mistake my comments for complaints. I felt delighted to > see the new user interface. Thanks for all the hard work and devotion.
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