[#5180] Can't send mails to IDN-domains (umlaut-domains)
Summary Can't send mails to IDN-domains (umlaut-domains)
Queue IMP
Queue Version HEAD
Type Bug
State Resolved
Priority 2. Medium
Owners Michael Slusarz <slusarz (at) horde (dot) org>
Requester web_horde (at) r2-passion (dot) net
Created 03/29/07 (1083 days ago)
Due
Updated 10/25/07 (873 days ago)
Assigned 10/01/07 (897 days ago)
Resolved 10/25/07 (873 days ago)
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10/25/07 Chuck Hagenbuch Comment #8
State ⇒ Resolved
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Ticket 5836 will track the display part of this, so I'm resolving this ticket.
10/01/07 Jan Schneider State ⇒ Assigned
 
04/16/07 Michael Slusarz Comment #7
State ⇒
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Yes - I thought I had did that before.  Hmmm...



Anyway, this will be a non-trivial thing to implement since it will 
effect BC - because the obvious place to do this conversion, 
MIME_Headers, is split between horde and IMP.
04/13/07 Chuck Hagenbuch Comment #6
Priority ⇒ 2. Medium
Taken from Horde DevelopersHorde Developers
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Michael, since you already committed the send support, is there a 
reason you changed this to a high priority bug? Can this be resolved 
now, or should it be converted into a medium priority enhancement for 
displaying IDN addresses?
03/30/07 Michael Slusarz Version ⇒ HEAD
Priority ⇒ 3. High
State ⇒ Feedback
Type ⇒ Bug
 
03/30/07 Michael Slusarz Comment #5
State ⇒ Feedback
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Uh, why? So far this almost only a nice marketing gag, that noone
uses seriously. Not even all DNS servers have been updated to make
this work.
It's a nice to have, but definitely not high priority.
Well it is an established RFC, and without this support is entirely 
impossible to send to these e-mail addresses, so I think that makes it 
an important bug to fix (ex. consider a site running IMP 4.2 4 years 
from now when everyone is using IDN.)  Whether other tools down the 
mail chain fail to send these messages is irrelevant.



More important, the fix to make this work was pretty easy.  We just 
need to make sure before we send a message that we encode.  We can 
carry around the unencode address at all other times internally.



http://lists.horde.org/archives/cvs/Week-of-Mon-20070326/066469.html



This still leaves the issue of decoding these IDN e-mail addresses for 
display purposes, but that is a UI enhancement request rather than a 
bug.
03/30/07 web_horde (at) r2-passion (dot) net Comment #4 Reply to this comment
It's a nice to have, but definitely not high priority.
Okay. It's not so important to give it the highes priority.
Uh, why? So far this almost only a nice marketing gag, that noone
uses seriously. Not even all DNS servers have been updated to make
this work.
No, that's not right. DENIC offers umlaut domains. The name resulution 
still works with current DNS servers as these domain names will be 
encoded to regular ascii caracters.



I have access to the statistics of a large german webhoster which 
hosts far over 100.000 domains. At the moment, 2.77 % of the customers 
have umlaut domains. This value is constantly improving.



The customers want to use the horde webmailer but can not send emails 
to umlaut domains. Maybe it is not so important to implement this 
feature with highest priority, but it still a missing and requested 
feature.



I think it is worth to implement this feature as soon as possible.
03/30/07 Jan Schneider Comment #3 Reply to this comment
Uh, why? So far this almost only a nice marketing gag, that noone uses 
seriously. Not even all DNS servers have been updated to make this work.

It's a nice to have, but definitely not high priority.
03/30/07 Michael Slusarz Comment #2
Assigned to Michael Slusarz
Assigned to Horde DevelopersHorde Developers
State ⇒ Accepted
Priority ⇒ 3. High
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This needs to be done before IMP 4.2.  We should use either PEAR's 
Net_IDNA or PECL's idn.
03/29/07 web_horde (at) r2-passion (dot) net Comment #1
State ⇒ New
Priority ⇒ 2. Medium
Type ⇒ Enhancement
Summary ⇒ Can't send mails to IDN-domains (umlaut-domains)
Due ⇒ 05/30/07
Queue ⇒ IMP
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It is now possible to register for domains containing umlauts. 
Browsers search for these IDN-domains by enconding them in punny-code. 
Unfortunatelly horde with the module imp can not send emails to those 
domains.



It would be great to support these domains, e. g. mail@schöne-welt.info



Tank you.