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[#10480] Read messages still bold in vertical mode
Summary Read messages still bold in vertical mode
Queue IMP
Queue Version 5.0.11
Type Bug
State Resolved
Priority 1. Low
Owners slusarz (at) horde (dot) org
Requester danielh (at) gclnet (dot) com (dot) br
Created 09/02/2011 (5136 days ago)
Due
Updated 09/09/2011 (5129 days ago)
Assigned 09/05/2011 (5133 days ago)
Resolved 09/09/2011 (5129 days ago)
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09/09/2011 06:39:54 AM Git Commit Comment #11 Reply to this comment
Changes have been made in Git for this ticket:

Bug #10480: Match Outlook vertical style a bit more

  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
http://git.horde.org/horde-git/-/commit/21be4f4a74e1fe74349a75302c512754faa676af
09/09/2011 06:39:19 AM Michael Slusarz Comment #10
Assigned to Michael Slusarz
State ⇒ Resolved
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Made one further change to match the Outlook style a bit more.   
Namely, made the subject text a lighter color than the first row text 
(see, e.g.: 
http://support.postbox-inc.com/attachments/token/ik1s16duyre1qwo/?name=B000HCXKLC-2-lg.jpg)
09/08/2011 07:53:30 AM Jan Schneider Comment #9 Reply to this comment
Same here, I don't use it, I don't like it, and I don't care. :)
09/07/2011 10:32:57 PM Michael Slusarz Comment #8 Reply to this comment
This seems to be done intentionally. I tried how it looked like when 
not enforcing bold to the sender/date line and italic to the subject 
line. The list indeed looks more like the list in horizontal mode 
then, but the problem is, that it's much harder for the eyed to 
distinct the rows of different messages, because in vertical mode 
those are two-line rows. I tried adding horizontal borders, but I'm 
not happy with that either.
I am almost convinced that the way I had implemented it before was 
based on a mockup of Outlook (or some other MUA).  I personally don't 
like it, but I like it more than the recent changes (w/everything in 
the same font face/style).  IIRC, the idea of the vertical view is to 
make the SENDER of the message stand out, vs. a horizontal view where 
the SUBJECT is more important.

So, FWIW, I would rather see this change reverted.  But since I am not 
a big vertical user, maybe someone who does use it more often (e.g. 
Chuck) can chime in.
09/07/2011 03:14:39 AM Chuck Hagenbuch Comment #7 Reply to this comment
Then again, threaded view is by far the most important mailbox 
visualization for me.  (IMHO we have the best threaded mailbox view 
available.)  And threaded view is pretty much worthless in the 
vertical layout, so that could be my hang-up.
I think a thread/conversation view would help here. One entry per 
thread/conversation on the left, however many messages there are in 
the conversation on the right. I'd love to see this.
09/07/2011 02:24:52 AM Michael Slusarz Comment #6 Reply to this comment
fwiw, this is the view I use and I love it and wouldn't switch back. 
If you're looking for better models for it than outlook, try iOS 
mail on a tablet, gmail on a tablet, the new offline gmail, and 
possibly Mobile Me mail...
It really must be personal taste.

Then again, threaded view is by far the most important mailbox 
visualization for me.  (IMHO we have the best threaded mailbox view 
available.)  And threaded view is pretty much worthless in the 
vertical layout, so that could be my hang-up.
09/07/2011 02:04:10 AM Chuck Hagenbuch Comment #5 Reply to this comment
fwiw, this is the view I use and I love it and wouldn't switch back. 
If you're looking for better models for it than outlook, try iOS mail 
on a tablet, gmail on a tablet, the new offline gmail, and possibly 
Mobile Me mail...
09/06/2011 07:33:23 AM Michael Slusarz Comment #4 Reply to this comment
The list indeed looks more like the list in horizontal mode then, 
but the problem is, that it's much harder for the eyed to distinct 
the rows of different messages, because in vertical mode those are 
two-line rows. I tried adding horizontal borders, but I'm not happy 
with that either.
Join the club.  I find the horizontal mode extremely difficult to 
visualize also.  I tried to replicate Outlook, because that was the 
spec given to me at the time of implementation.  At the time, I 
mentioned that I personally believed the view was crap, but I was told 
that "users like this view".  Sort of wishing that I didn't add this 
view now, since it is an example of adding something simply because 
users are lemmings (this is the way X works, so...) vs. the view 
actually bringing anything positive with respect to UI/usability.
09/05/2011 03:06:31 PM Jan Schneider Comment #2
State ⇒ Feedback
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This seems to be done intentionally. I tried how it looked like when 
not enforcing bold to the sender/date line and italic to the subject 
line. The list indeed looks more like the list in horizontal mode 
then, but the problem is, that it's much harder for the eyed to 
distinct the rows of different messages, because in vertical mode 
those are two-line rows. I tried adding horizontal borders, but I'm 
not happy with that either.
09/02/2011 12:57:14 PM danielh (at) gclnet (dot) com (dot) br Comment #1
State ⇒ Unconfirmed
Patch ⇒ No
Milestone ⇒
Queue ⇒ IMP
Due ⇒ 10/02/2011
Summary ⇒ Read messages still bold in vertical mode
Type ⇒ Bug
Priority ⇒ 1. Low
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Good morning,

     Messages marked as read are still in bold in subject in vertical 
mode. This does not occur in horizontal mode.

Thanks.

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