Tickets :: Comment on [#12448] IMP using horde credentials when not desired

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Comment	>>> I'm really not sure how much clearer we can make this. >> >> You are assuming people will read the smtp parameters especifications >> after they already discarded the need of configuring smtp in IMP at >> all. > > But regardless, the current method is the only way that makes sense > as default. It makes no sense to use Horde SMTP parameters as a > default. (Not to mention your setup is extremely rare in practice). > > Just imagine the case where an admin allows login to two different > mail backends - a local backend and Gmail. For both of these, the > obvious default is the same credentials for logging into the IMAP/POP > backend, NOT the default SMTP configuration for the Horde > installation. (Almost every mail system setup I know shares > authentication credentials for both the sending and receiving parts. > In fact, in 10+ years of dealing with e-mail systems, I can't think > of a setup otherwise. I'm not saying this isn't true somewhere - but > I would have seen this at least once by now if it was a common > occurrence). > > This is especially evident with the Gmail setup example from above. > You absolutely cannot use the Horde default SMTP server to send > messages via a Gmail address. The odds are about 0% a receiving mail > agent is going to accept a message like this - it is going to be > almost immediately marked as spam. Thus the default needs to be the > only authentication credentials that will most likely work - the ones > used to login to the Gmail IMAP backend. > >> Also, the horde_auth explanation is a little ambiguous. It references >> horde's authentication, when actually it should reference horde >> mailer's authentication (in my case they differ). And when it says >> "those fields", it's not clear if those fields are the ones defined >> in horde mailer tab or in imp's backends. >> >> Either way, it's confusing because you are led to think you do not >> need to set imp's smtp options when you are not overwriting horde >> mailer settings. > > Do understand that your use case is in the extreme minority. So it > needs to be documented b your use case must not be prominently > documented - since that's going to confuse the vast majority of other > users that almost certainly want to use the IMP authentication > credentials. > > I will use your input and try to make this clearer in the documentation.
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