Fri, 10 Apr 2026 09:35:34 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520 Sent mail folder does not auto-create If the sent mail folder is not a locked setting in prefs.php, users are able to choose where to save each message from a drop-down in the compose screen. If the default named sent-mail folder does not exist for that user, the drop-down defaults to the first existing folder (sorted case-sensitive alphabetically) -- often this is Drafts. IMP does not attempt to create the default sent-mail folder, except in the case where the Inbox is the *only* other existent folder. If the sent mail folder setting is locked in prefs.php, users are not offered the drop-down menu and the sent mail folder *is* auto-created if it does not exist. This is a regression of a much earlier bug; I found references to it from 2002 or so via Google. It may have been fixed in an earlier version of compose.php; see line 1001 in compose.php Revision 2.800.2.16 (http://cvs.horde.org/co.php/imp/compose.php?r=2.800.2.16): if (!$imp_folder->exists($imp['stream'], $sent_mail_folder)) { $imp_folder->create($imp['stream'], $sent_mail_folder, $prefs->getValue('subscribe')); } My patch creates the sent-mail folder much earlier on, so that it's ready by the time the drop-down appears. Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:36:25 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55529 This is not a viable solution, because the sent-mail folder must not be created when starting message composition, but only when sending the message (or really when trying to save the sent message). Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:49:01 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55532 > This is not a viable solution, because the sent-mail folder must not > be created when starting message composition Pardon my ignorance, but why not? Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:25:02 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55558 >> This is not a viable solution, because the sent-mail folder must not >> be created when starting message composition > > Pardon my ignorance, but why not? Because it is a sent-mail folder, not a composed-but-maybe-not-sent-mail folder. Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:18:16 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55589 >>> This is not a viable solution, because the sent-mail folder must not >>> be created when starting message composition >> >> Pardon my ignorance, but why not? > > Because it is a sent-mail folder, not a > composed-but-maybe-not-sent-mail folder. But the sent-mail folder is going to be created at some point anyway; I don't see the harm in doing it early. If the message is composed but not sent and the user hits "save draft", it still goes into the drafts folder and the new sent mail folder stays empty -- nothing wrong with that; pretty much all e-mail programs (and most forms of webmail) have a sent mail folder as a permanent fixture; if you never send anything it just stays empty. Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:57:17 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55591 >>>> This is not a viable solution, because the sent-mail folder must not >>>> be created when starting message composition >>> >>> Pardon my ignorance, but why not? >> >> Because it is a sent-mail folder, not a >> composed-but-maybe-not-sent-mail folder. > > But the sent-mail folder is going to be created at some point anyway; > I don't see the harm in doing it early. If the message is composed > but not sent and the user hits "save draft", it still goes into the > drafts folder and the new sent mail folder stays empty -- nothing > wrong with that; pretty much all e-mail programs (and most forms of > webmail) have a sent mail folder as a permanent fixture; if you never > send anything it just stays empty. > can not get sent attachments into "sent mail" only sent message. Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:30:16 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55844 >>>>> This is not a viable solution, because the sent-mail folder must not >>>>> be created when starting message composition >>>> >>>> Pardon my ignorance, but why not? >>> >>> Because it is a sent-mail folder, not a >>> composed-but-maybe-not-sent-mail folder. >> >> But the sent-mail folder is going to be created at some point anyway; >> I don't see the harm in doing it early. If the message is composed >> but not sent and the user hits "save draft", it still goes into the >> drafts folder and the new sent mail folder stays empty -- nothing >> wrong with that; pretty much all e-mail programs (and most forms of >> webmail) have a sent mail folder as a permanent fixture; if you never >> send anything it just stays empty. >> > can not get sent attachments into "sent mail" only sent message. Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:58:28 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t55845 > But the sent-mail folder is going to be created at some point anyway; > I don't see the harm in doing it early. If the message is composed > but not sent and the user hits "save draft", it still goes into the > drafts folder and the new sent mail folder stays empty -- nothing > wrong with that; pretty much all e-mail programs (and most forms of > webmail) have a sent mail folder as a permanent fixture; if you never > send anything it just stays empty. I agree with this. While true that you may not end up saving the message in the sent-mail folder, without auto-creating it won't even be available in the drop-down list. I don't see the harm in pre-creating the folder. If identified as the sent-mail folder in the prefs, it is eventually going to be created anyway. Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:56:30 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t56791 Changes have been made in Git for this ticket: Bug #8520: Make sure sent mail folder exists if using drop-down selection on compose page http://git.horde.org/diff.php/imp/compose.php?rt=horde-hatchery&r1=b821d067b0e30206e6acfdaff8ac860a49754814&r2=dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 http://git.horde.org/diff.php/imp/docs/CHANGES?rt=horde-hatchery&r1=4b2f4623ae225c6bb2fb0b514ba039e24d114098&r2=dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 http://git.horde.org/diff.php/imp/lib/Views/Compose.php?rt=horde-hatchery&r1=caedb70f6047930a3e941a6263b97db7e3e0eac6&r2=dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:05:06 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t56814 Changes have been made in CVS for this ticket: Bug: 8520 Merge from git:horde-hatchery dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 http://cvs.horde.org/diff.php/imp/compose.php?rt=horde&r1=2.800.2.126&r2=2.800.2.127&ty=u http://cvs.horde.org/diff.php/imp/docs/CHANGES?rt=horde&r1=1.699.2.413&r2=1.699.2.414&ty=u Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t56815 Added to IMP 4.3.6. The sent-mail folder is only created if sent-mail folder selection is allowed. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:07:23 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t56816 Changes have been made in Git for this ticket: Bug #8520: Make sure sent mail folder exists if using drop-down selection on compose page http://git.horde.org/diff.php/imp/compose.php?rt=horde-git&r1=b821d067b0e30206e6acfdaff8ac860a49754814&r2=dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 http://git.horde.org/diff.php/imp/docs/CHANGES?rt=horde-git&r1=4b2f4623ae225c6bb2fb0b514ba039e24d114098&r2=dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 http://git.horde.org/diff.php/imp/lib/Views/Compose.php?rt=horde-git&r1=caedb70f6047930a3e941a6263b97db7e3e0eac6&r2=dffa0a9f401f8b73c0e8a90f67b78f81c797a369 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:16:01 +0000 https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8520#t57664