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  <title>&quot;Sent&quot; folder doesn&#039;t work in French</title> 
  <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 08:36:34 +0000</pubDate> 
  <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667</link> 
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   <title>After installing and configuring successfully Horde 3.3 / IM</title> 
   <description>After installing and configuring successfully Horde 3.3 / IMP 4.3, then logging in in French, I tried to send an email.



The window that opened said the email was going to be saved in the &quot;Envoy??&quot; folder (instead of &quot;Envoyés&quot;).

When it tried to create the folder, it failed, since the name was not valid.



As a proper workaround, I modified the prefs.php file this way:

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&lt;     &#039;value&#039; =&gt; _(&quot;Sent&quot;),

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&gt;     &#039;value&#039; =&gt; &#039;Sent&#039;,



It now works, and the name of the folder is the same as the one used by Thunderbird. Shouldn&#039;t it work as TB does? Ie, have always the same underlying name for the folder (&quot;Sent&quot;), then translate it only in the GUI, so it stays the same whatever the language and MUA chosen?</description> 
   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:34:28 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667#t50663</link> 
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   <title>You are free to choose a different sent-mail folder name in </title> 
   <description>You are free to choose a different sent-mail folder name in your preferences.

Otherwise a duplicate of request #7545.</description> 
   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667#t50669</link> 
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   <title>Please consider the first part of my report, where I state t</title> 
   <description>Please consider the first part of my report, where I state that the default name in French does not work.



I&#039;m not free to choose a different name. I&#039;m forced to do so, else it just doesn&#039;t work. It might be a simple encoding issue of the translated name.



#7545 would effectively be a fix, because the buggy encoding would disappear, but I think the default name should work until it&#039;s included.</description> 
   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:06:11 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667#t50673</link> 
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   <title>&gt; Please consider the first part of my report, where I state</title> 
   <description>&gt; Please consider the first part of my report, where I state that the 

&gt; default name in French does not work.



I&#039;m going to have to agree with this statement.  Why is the Sent default (and Drafts, Trash, and Spam) a gettext string when there is no guarantee that the gettext strings won&#039;t contain 8bit chars?</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:22:47 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667#t50674</link> 
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   <title>&gt;&gt; Please consider the first part of my report, where I stat</title> 
   <description>&gt;&gt; Please consider the first part of my report, where I state that the

&gt;&gt; default name in French does not work.

&gt;

&gt; I&#039;m going to have to agree with this statement.  Why is the Sent 

&gt; default (and Drafts, Trash, and Spam) a gettext string when there is 

&gt; no guarantee that the gettext strings won&#039;t contain 8bit chars?



It&#039;s fine for it to contain 8bit characters. But it look like we are missing some conversion. 8bit chars in the drafts folder don&#039;t cause any problems, in the sent-mail folder they do. It doesn&#039;t help to convert the folder names in conf/prefs.php to utf7-imap (which seems the correct solution to me), because then the drafts folder no longer works.

Looks like we are missing a conversion somewhere, or have one too much, depending on the point of view.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:06:54 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667#t50680</link> 
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   <title>I *think* this is fixed in IMP 5 with the changes made in Ti</title> 
   <description>I *think* this is fixed in IMP 5 with the changes made in Ticket #7545.  As of IMP 5, the default folder names can no longer be 8 bit in prefs.php - they MUST be in UTF7-IMAP.  All translation is done in the IMP libraries.</description> 
   <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7667#t51516</link> 
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