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  <title>Changes of subject field of whups notification emails</title> 
  <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2026 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate> 
  <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641</link> 
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   <title>IMP removes the &quot;[Tickets #xx]&quot; string from the subject of w</title> 
   <description>IMP removes the &quot;[Tickets #xx]&quot; string from the subject of whups send notifications emails.

Wouldn&#039;t it be better to leave this, since if you reply to this mail in order to make updates to this whups ticket via email whups could queue this into the correct ticket and make it a comment to this ticket.



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   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:15:36 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50280</link> 
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   <title>Why do you think IMP does this?</title> 
   <description>Why do you think IMP does this?</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50281</link> 
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   <title>when i look into the source of the mail i can see [Tickets #</title> 
   <description>when i look into the source of the mail i can see [Tickets #xx] and when i reply to this in IMP then this disappears.

maybe this has something todo with the localizations since in other languages where [Tickets #xx] appears in the locale language is also removed when replied.

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   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50282</link> 
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   <title>&gt; when i look into the source of the mail i can see [Tickets</title> 
   <description>&gt; when i look into the source of the mail i can see [Tickets #xx] and 

&gt; when i reply to this in IMP then this disappears.

&gt; maybe this has something todo with the localizations since in other 

&gt; languages where [Tickets #xx] appears in the locale language is also 

&gt; removed when replied.



You didn&#039;t say this in your original e-mail.  Your original e-mail said IMP does not display anything between brackets.  That is not true.



It is true that we do strip information in brackets from the subject header when replying/forwarding, when appropriate.

http://cvs.horde.org/diff.php/imp/lib/Compose.php?r1=1.392&amp;r2=1.393



This subject cleaning uses the &quot;base subject&quot; algorithm defined in RFC 5256 [2.1]:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5256



I believe it is appropriate to strip this information out.  obviously, any algorithm that attempts to &quot;clean&quot; a subject line has the chance of potentially removing desired information.  But this particular algorithm has been discussed for many years and the logic behind it is sound.  Most important, stripping this information does not affect in any way subsequent threading/subject sorting done on this message.



If whups is sending out e-mails with ticket information in brackets, we should probably change that.  So this is probably a whups issue rather than an IMP issue.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:54:56 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50283</link> 
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   <title>&gt; You didn&#039;t say this in your original e-mail.  Your origina</title> 
   <description>&gt; You didn&#039;t say this in your original e-mail.  Your original e-mail 

&gt; said IMP does not display anything between brackets.  That is not 

&gt; true.



i&#039;m sorry if there was a missunderstanding.

here is an example:

Subject: [Tickets #20] Re: Re: iptables

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ original mail-subject when mail is viewed



changes to:



Subject: Re: iptables

^^^^^^^^^^^the subject-field when replied to the mail



&gt; It is true that we do strip information in brackets from the subject 

&gt; header when replying/forwarding, when appropriate.

&gt; http://cvs.horde.org/diff.php/imp/lib/Compose.php?r1=1.392&amp;r2=1.393

&gt;

&gt; This subject cleaning uses the &quot;base subject&quot; algorithm defined in 

&gt; RFC 5256 [2.1]:

&gt; http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5256



&gt; I believe it is appropriate to strip this information out.  

&gt; obviously, any algorithm that attempts to &quot;clean&quot; a subject line has 

&gt; the chance of potentially removing desired information.  But this 

&gt; particular algorithm has been discussed for many years and the logic 

&gt; behind it is sound.  Most important, stripping this information does 

&gt; not affect in any way subsequent threading/subject sorting done on 

&gt; this message.

&gt;

&gt; If whups is sending out e-mails with ticket information in brackets, 

&gt; we should probably change that.  So this is probably a whups issue 

&gt; rather than an IMP issue.



maybe an other indication of that particular ticket would help sorting tickets. particularly when whups is used with emails updates.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50284</link> 
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   <title>&gt; This subject cleaning uses the &quot;base subject&quot; algorithm de</title> 
   <description>&gt; This subject cleaning uses the &quot;base subject&quot; algorithm defined in 

&gt; RFC 5256 [2.1]:

&gt; http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5256



This is overshooting the goal IMO. I think we agree that subject threading is not really one of the best ideas in history, so taking one algorithm out of it to claim it being a standard for something completely different (replying/forwarding) doesn&#039;t make much sense to me.

The algorithm has it&#039;s merits though, so I suggest leaving out the subj-blob stripping.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50286</link> 
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   <title>Changes have been made in CVS for this ticket:

http://cvs.h</title> 
   <description>Changes have been made in CVS for this ticket:

http://cvs.horde.org/diff.php/framework/Imap_Client/lib/Horde/Imap/Client.php?r1=1.44&amp;r2=1.45&amp;ty=u</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:09:13 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50294</link> 
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   <title>Changes have been made in CVS for this ticket:

http://cvs.h</title> 
   <description>Changes have been made in CVS for this ticket:

http://cvs.horde.org/diff.php/imp/lib/Compose.php?r1=1.400&amp;r2=1.401&amp;ty=u</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50295</link> 
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   <title>No longer strip blob information from subject.  But RFC 5256</title> 
   <description>No longer strip blob information from subject.  But RFC 5256 is still, for lack of *any* other standard, the best practice for reply/forward subject naming so continue to follow its rules other than blobs (most important, this means no i18n &#039;re&#039; or &#039;fwd&#039; prefixes).</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:12:13 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/7641#t50296</link> 
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