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  <title>Allow email address in an admin-defined header field to be added to Whitelist/Blacklist</title> 
  <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 13:09:35 +0000</pubDate> 
  <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739</link> 
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   <title>This patch puts an optional config &quot;wblist_header&quot; into serv</title> 
   <description>This patch puts an optional config &quot;wblist_header&quot; into servers.php. Specifying an email header field here will use that for adding to the Whitelist/Blacklist. For instance, in our situation we have found that using the &quot;Return-Path&quot; header field is better than using &quot;From&quot;. So when the user click Whitelist/Blacklist in an email it will add the email address in the &quot;Return-Path&quot; header field to the users custom list.



If the config option is not used, it will have the same behavior as before. If the config option is used but with a non-existent header field, it will throw out a notification and not add any email address.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:45:45 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t45444</link> 
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   <title>This seems very confusing to me UI-wise, as the Return-Path </title> 
   <description>This seems very confusing to me UI-wise, as the Return-Path header isn&#039;t even displayed in most views.</description> 
   <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t45467</link> 
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   <title>&gt; This seems very confusing to me UI-wise, as the Return-Pat</title> 
   <description>&gt; This seems very confusing to me UI-wise, as the Return-Path header 

&gt; isn&#039;t even displayed in most views.



Would making the custom header field (in our case Return-Path) viewable in the standard limited headers view make this more acceptable? Not sure where it would fit, maybe under the &#039;From&#039; header? For the message list view, it could be added to the &#039;From&#039; tooltip. It would only show this extra info if the wblist_header is being used and its content differs from that of the &#039;From&#039; field.



Our backend looks at the SMTP envelope senders rather than the &#039;From&#039; headers, so the current functionality of the Whitelist/Blacklist system isn&#039;t cutting it.</description> 
   <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t45472</link> 
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   <title>Do any other developers have an opinion on this?



To Ryan </title> 
   <description>Do any other developers have an opinion on this?



To Ryan - can you update patch to use the server info from the session instead of looping through $servers every time through the wblist loop?</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:31:33 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47128</link> 
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   <title>Is this for blocking spam messages or specific pesky humans?</title> 
   <description>Is this for blocking spam messages or specific pesky humans?</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47130</link> 
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   <title>This sounds pretty obscure and intransparent for the end use</title> 
   <description>This sounds pretty obscure and intransparent for the end user to me.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:19:02 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47132</link> 
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   <title>Chuck - Attached patch which uses $_SESSION instead of a loo</title> 
   <description>Chuck - Attached patch which uses $_SESSION instead of a loop.



Matt - Well, it&#039;s for any case where the SMTP envelope sender (which ends up in the Return-Path header) differs from the From header value. In order of prevalence, our users seem to use message blacklisting mostly for semi-spam bulk mailings, then for actual spam messages that slip through Spamassassin for whatever reason, then for pesky humans using poorly configured MTAs or doing other ill-advised things.



The current system is almost entirely useless for us right now as bulk mailings and spam seem to rarely have the same SMTP envelope sender &amp; from.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:26:15 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47133</link> 
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   <title>Using blacklists for spam is silly; spammers will change the</title> 
   <description>Using blacklists for spam is silly; spammers will change their from headers, etc too often to be useful.



But if this catches mailings using VERP or whatever that make the envelope headers useless, then I guess it sounds useful to have access to this other field.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:45:11 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47134</link> 
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   <title>Beside my general concerns, why does this have to specified </title> 
   <description>Beside my general concerns, why does this have to specified per server? Sounds like it makes much more sense as a global configuration.</description> 
   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:52:34 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47137</link> 
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   <title>Blacklist/whitelist to me is a shortcut for blacklisting fro</title> 
   <description>Blacklist/whitelist to me is a shortcut for blacklisting from addresses, not return-path.  There may be instances where return-path is more correct, but there may very well be instances where from is more correct.



This seems like a minimally useful feature for most users.  I would rather see this maintained as a patch on the wiki or, alternatively, a [black|white]list hook being created.</description> 
   <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:33:01 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47151</link> 
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   <title>Actually, you could implement this already much cleaner usin</title> 
   <description>Actually, you could implement this already much cleaner using spam reporting. You can then extract from the message whatever you want, and spam filtering is magic art for most users anyway.</description> 
   <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:54:36 +0000</pubDate> 
   <link>https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/6739#t47167</link> 
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