Fwd: string is translated

compose.php uses an i18n'able variant of the 'Fwd:' tag whic

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:45:03 +0000

compose.php uses an i18n'able variant of the 'Fwd:' tag which indicates a forwarded message: | $header['subject'] = _("Fwd:"); Although not explicitly stated in RFC850, this is similarly to the 'Re:' tag which is expected as-is but not as an translated string. E.g. 'compose.php' expects the english tag to decide whether a new tag shall be added: | foreach (array('fwd:', 'fw:', '(fwd)', '[fwd]') as $signal) { Using internationalized strings there results into subjects like | "Fwd: WG: Fwd: P.ep: VS: Hence, there should not be used _("Fwd:") but plain "Fwd:" and 'Fwd:' should be moved out of the _(...) in | $header['subject'] = sprintf(_("Fwd: %u Forwarded Messages"), count($msglist));

You can't really compare Fwd: with Re: because you usually r

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:30:05 +0000

You can't really compare Fwd: with Re: because you usually reply to messages forth and back often, but you don't usually forward a message several times. This was discussed in the past and decided to translate Fwd: because it's not that common for non-English speakers as Re: is. But we should add the translated version of Fwd: to that array you are referencing if this isn't the case in IMP 4.2 already.

do you really add the 43 translations (as of 4.1.4) of 'fwd:

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:36:29 +0000

do you really add the 43 translations (as of 4.1.4) of 'fwd:' to this array? Or at least: add a configuration option so that user can decide whether he wants the translated version or the common 'fwd:' only? Even Outlook has such an option...

> do you really add the 43 translations (as of 4.1.4) of 'fw

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:09:31 +0000

> do you really add the 43 translations (as of 4.1.4) of 'fwd:' to this array? No, only the translation of the current language. It's really not a common case that people with different languages forward messages one by one. > Or at least: add a configuration option so that user can decide > whether he wants the translated version or the common 'fwd:' only? > Even Outlook has such an option... I don't think this is an issue large enough to justify a setting.

> No, only the translation of the current language. It's rea

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:52:00 +0000

> No, only the translation of the current language. It's really not a common case that people with different . languages forward messages one by one. It is very common that people use regular mail clients (which set untranslated 'Fwd:' tags). IMP would make them to ': Fwd:'. > I don't think this is an issue large enough to justify a setting. What is the issue to translate 'Fwd:'? Translating it is very uncommon (and execpt IMP, I know only one major MUA which is doing it be default).

>> do you really add the 43 translations (as of 4.1.4) of 'f

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:01:06 +0000

>> do you really add the 43 translations (as of 4.1.4) of 'fwd:' to this array? > > No, only the translation of the current language. It's really not a > common case that people with different languages forward messages one > by one. Agreed. And even if you do receive that rare forward from someone who speaks a different language, it is not that big of a deal. Especially given the alternative of having to do a potentially expensive comparison of a long list of strings every time you want to view a message. >> Or at least: add a configuration option so that user can decide >> whether he wants the translated version or the common 'fwd:' only? >> Even Outlook has such an option... > > I don't think this is an issue large enough to justify a setting. Agreed.

> And even if you do receive that rare forward from someone

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:00:23 +0000

> And even if you do receive that rare forward from someone who speaks a different language it's not only different language; it can be a different MUA too. Horde/IMP is the only MUA which enforces translation of the 'Fwd:' string. > Especially given the alternative of having to do a potentially expensive comparison of a long list of strings every time Exactly. That's why, 'Fwd:' should be handled like 'Re:' and never be translated.

I see your point, but it looks like none of your arguments c

Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:36:57 +0000

I see your point, but it looks like none of your arguments convinced any of the developers.

Well, I was following the conversation. If most other client

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:15:33 +0000

Well, I was following the conversation. If most other clients don't translate Fwd, I don't think we should either.

Outlook does. But this is probably a really bad example, it

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:54:36 +0000

Outlook does. But this is probably a really bad example, it even translates Re:.

Accordingly http://www.web-blog.net/comments/P135_0_1_0/ (on

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:00:41 +0000

Accordingly http://www.web-blog.net/comments/P135_0_1_0/ (only german, first google hit for "outlook rfc 850"), outlook can be configured to use correct subject tags (inclusive 'Fwd:'). There is no way in Horde to use international 'Fwd:'.

Done for IMP 4.2.

Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:38:27 +0000

Done for IMP 4.2.