Committed now - thanks!

Thanks for the feedback.

I just tried out running both MIMP and IMP in Opera Mini and I 
certainly think that Opera Mini performs better if treated like a 
mobile device. As said earlier, OM supports all the "standard 
features" but I'd rather have the quick response times and simple UI 
of MIMP when I'm mobile.



Anyway, the User Agent of OM 1.2 seems to contain both "Opera 8" and 
"Opera Mini" (but not operamini) which makes the current Browser.php 
code (rev 1.153.2.38 from Horde 4.1 RC2) detect it as a regular Opera, 
instead of Opera Mini. I suggest that we move the detection of 
operamini, mobileexplorer etc to the top of that if{}, right above 
Opera, and that we also add detection for "opera mini". Please see the 
attached patch.



Best Regards



Daniel Andersson

I wasn't very accurate.

Yes Opera mini supports all those, but if possible a stream lined 
interface is better to render in a small screen, although Opera's 
extensible rendering architecture can deal with any content just fine.

Opera mini too supports all the javascript I mentioned, but using that 
same javascript in a mobile-phone with limited resources (which is the 
aim of this browser) might cause efficiency problems, and mobile 
phone's input (small keyboard, few keys) is far from something which 
allows interactive rich application to be used efficiently, although 
the browser supports it. You could sniff the UA string of the browser 
and guess the king of mobile phone the user has, or find the screen 
width. Opera mini is designed to work with any java enabled mobile 
phone which can be anything.

Let's see how it works.

Are horde apps useful with those features on small screens, though?

that diff doesn't make Opera mini any justice.

Opera mini has support for images, iframes, XMLHttpRequest, javascript 
1.5, dom and css, just like Opera for the desktop.

It seems partially solved. I still have to login twice using the 
composite driver. First a normal Horde login screen appears and after 
logging in there is the sidebar plus the mimp login.



I'm using the composite driver as described in the wiki.



The driver works with other mobile browsers.

Cleaned up to not treat them as Palm browsers and committed, thanks. 
Btw, your version of MIMP's compose.php has nothing to do with your 
version of the framework...

Sorry. Our version is

* $Horde: mimp/compose.php,v 1.60 2005/06/22 23:44:22 selsky Exp $



A unified diff file is attached.



Debs

Can you please upload a unified diff of your changes? Line 282 
doensn't line up with anything in the latest version of the file.

Adding these lines after line 282 in horde/lib/Horde/Browser.php 
caused the Openwave emulator  and Microsoft Mobile Explorer to be   
detected as "mobiles".  The Nokia Mobile Browser Simulator was 
detected as a mobile without adding to Browser.php. I do not have 
Opera Mini, but have added a line for it for good measure:



                       strpos($this->_lowerAgent, 'mobileexplorer') 
!== false ||

                       strpos($this->_lowerAgent, 'openwave') !== false ||

                       strpos($this->_lowerAgent, 'operamini') !== false ||



Regards,

     Debs Pollard

Hi,



is it possible to add Opera Mini to the list of known mobile browsers?



UserAgent is (e.g. with a Nokia 9500)



"Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera

Mini/1.1.2277/hifi/nordic/de; Nokia 9500; de; U; ssr)".



Thanks



Volker